Monday, September 28, 2009

I Can't Argue With That

Andy Xie: Why One Bubble Burst Deserves Another

Today, governments and central banks are celebrating their victorious stabilizing of the global financial system. To achieve the same, they could have saved Lehman with US$ 50 billion. Instead, they have spent trillions of dollars -- probably more than US$ 10 trillion when we get the final tally -- to reach the same objective. Meanwhile, a broader goal to reform the financial system has seen absolutely no progress.

I can't argue with that.

Trading gains are a form of income redistribution. In the best scenario, smart traders buy assets ahead of others because they see a stronger economy ahead. Such redistribution comes from giving a bigger share of the future growth to those who are willing to take risk ahead of others. Past experience, however, demonstrates that most trading profits involve redistributions from many to a few in zero-sum bubbles. The trick is to get the credulous masses to join the bubble game at high prices. When the bubble bursts, even though asset prices may be the same as they were at the beginning, most people lose money to the few. What's occurring now is another bubble that is again redistributing income from the masses to the few.

I can't argue with that.

The big change that happened is a rapid increase in the U.S. household savings rate. It happened much more quickly than I expected and has the potential to change the global economy. The economic explanation is negative wealth effect. U.S. household net wealth declined 20 percent, or nearly 100 percent of GDP. The rule of the thumb is that it would lead to a 5 percent reduction in spending. The U.S. household savings rate has increased more than that -- and continues to rise. It could rise above 10 percent next year. Because of rising savings, the U.S. trade deficit has already halved from the peak. It could halve again next year. This is why I have turned positive on the dollar.

I can't argue with that. I'm in a semi-deflationary mood these days. A dollar turning positive would coexist quite nicely with my current theory that Dr. Copper Is Certifiably Insane.

Financial markets are still maximum bearish on the dollar. Liquidity is being channeled out of dollar into all other assets. This is why there is such a high correlation between the dollar and other assets. I think this is the most crowded trade in the world. When the dollar reverses, the short squeeze could cause a global crisis.

I can't argue with that.

Many investors today think a bubble is inevitable and, when it bursts, another can be created quickly to keep on going with life as usual. What has occurred over the past six months seems to validate this viewpoint. History, however, is not kind to this view. Serial bubble making leads to a bigger economic crisis later. What occurred in the United States in the 1930s and Japan over the past two decades are good examples in that regard. If a new bubble were always available for bailouts, we'd have the ultimate free lunch. But there is no free lunch.

I can't argue with that. The housing/debt bubble was MUCH bigger than the dotcom bubble and as such was MUCH more painful when it burst.

The environment for tolerating such a loose monetary environment ends when inflation surges in emerging economies first and developed economies second.

I can't argue with that. I have no idea how high the stock market can climb with me on the sidelines. I have no idea when inflation will become a problem again. I can say that oil and copper have outperformed the stock market since the bottom and I'm no more a believer in commodity driven stock markets now than I was in 2004. I can say this with 100% conviction.

11 comments:

EconomicDisconnect said...

Mark,
Great catch, Xie is a keen observer.

I have always believed that the reason the Dot Bomb bust was no big deal (to the important folks anyway) was that all the crap assets were pushed out onto the public right before the bust. Only the average investor got torched, and that is no cause for alarm. This time it was the banks that were stuck holding the bag, and that of course is unacceptable! Alas, we the people will end up paying for this mess anyway.

Uh oh, my word verification is "arcen". I would never, ever condone such behavior.

mab said...

Stag,

The alleged savings are a myth. By my math, while household saving at the household level are positive, the cash savings at the household level are negative.

Moreover, private wages and salaries were $100 billion lower at the end of Q2 2009 than at the end of Q3, 2006 (almost 3 yrs). If you strip out the gains to the wealthiest 1% of Americans the situation is truly disturbing.

And even if one includes Government wages and salaries, it makes no sense to claim that the savings rate is positive. The amount of the alleged savings is dwarfed by the amount of the increases in government debt. Add in the increases in private debt and the true nature of the debt pyramid is clear to see.

Per the BEA, net national savings at the end of Q2, 2009 was negative 2.8%. The last time national savings were negative was during the Great Depression.

The entire credit based eCONomy has become a lie.

Stagflationary Mark said...

mab,

Party pooper! ;)

"If you strip out the gains to the wealthiest 1% of Americans the situation is truly disturbing."

Well, you know how I feel about the impact income inequality has on this country. People aren't giving it enough "credit". No wait. That's Ken Fisher's argument. I didn't mean credit in the traditional sense. It was a figure of speech.

"The amount of the alleged savings is dwarfed by the amount of the increases in government debt."

Look. We're borrowing from ourselves so that we can fund our savings. Understand? The more I borrow from myself the more money I'll someday have to pay myself back! All I need to do is make sure that I earn massive amounts of interest on the borrowed money. That's all.

Check out these personal savings rates.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/business/ratechart/

Washington Mutual was consistently among the highest payers in the past. It was replaced by Chase. Check out what Chase is paying now. I'll be rich in no time!

I can't decide between the 0.2% 3 month CD and the 0.2% 12 month CD though. Do I lock it in? Maybe the 0.01% $2500 NOW account would be better. The thought of tucking away $2500 at 0.01% really appeals to me. If I keep it there for a year and they don't have too many rounding errors, then I should be able to buy a shiny new state quarter with the proceeds. That assumes shiny new state quarters are selling at rational prices (you know, 25 cents).

Stagflationary Mark said...

GYSC,

Uh oh, my word verification is "arcen". I would never, ever condone such behavior.

Which behavior? Soccer or gardening? ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcen

"It is the birthplace of former Dutch soccer international Stan Valckx."

"Arcen is famous for its beautiful Castle Gardens, which are open from May to October."

EconomicDisconnect said...

Mark,
I was thinking more along the lines of "arson".

Stagflationary Mark said...

GYSC,

You were thinking more along the lines of arson? Seriously?

No matter how bad things get I just want you to know...

I like to think I am your friend, and on that line, are you ok?
You have my email


Hahaha! :)

Stagflationary Mark said...

Copper Drops to Five-Week Low in New York as Inventories Climb

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=a_AdHCrJm6so

“Inventories keep rising, and it’s taking a toll on copper,” said Gijsbert Groenewegen, a partner at Gold Arrow Capital Management in New York. “People are getting more and more worried about the demand situation. Copper is looking tired.”

mab said...

Stag,

Humor me for a minute with the following assumptions.

* Over time, the stock market and investment returns in general are connected to reality. So (ignoring the short term fluctuations in market prices) in aggregate we can only receive what we produce or earn.

* Our national accounting is and has been legitimate.

Per the BEA, our net national savings rate was ~ 10% in 1929. It then plummeted below zero during the Great Depression. From 1935 until WW2, the net savings rate was positive but low (low single digits). During WW2, our net savings rate soared to the mid teens. From 1950 to 1980, the rate fluctuated very consistenly around 10%. Since 1980, our net national savings rate has steadily declined through the single digits and finally into negative territory during the recent calamity.
http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/TableView.asp?SelectedTable=137&Freq=Qtr&FirstYear=2007&LastYear=2009

How is it we can CONtinue to expect historical 10% stock market returns when our national net savings rate is and has been well below 10% for decades? In my mind, if we produce & save 10%, we get 10%. If we produce & save 5%, we get 5%. If we expect 10% and only produce & save 5%, we'll get a rude awakening as asset prices are adjusted to reality. If we produce & save less than zero, we'll get a depression.

Regardless of how much we borrow or print, in the long run we'll never get out more than we earn and save. Yet, even today, expectations are way above reality.

And now we're so loaded up with debt and we've gutted our eCONomy so much I seriously doubt we can produce & save 5%. Expecting an outcome like Japan might be optimistic.

Am I missing something?

p.s.

Greensham, Bernanke and Wall St. are menances.

Stagflationary Mark said...

mab,

"Humor me for a minute with the following assumptions."

I did and found your reasoning compelling. Your turn.

In September of 1981 the yield on the 10 Year Treasury was 15.32%.

Over the next 28 years it has fallen rather consistently.

As of yesterday, the yield was 3.31%.

Should we wish the prosperity of the 1980s and 1990s to continue for 28 more years, we probably need to keep that interest rate trend intact. "Sure thing" falling rates are a never ending boon to stock and housing price appreciation.

If we can get the interest rates down to 0% and keep them there, then we should be able to borrow an infinite amount of money with absolutely no consequences. It will be the largest permanent free lunch in the history of mankind!

We are not the only ones looking to be humored though.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_40/b4149040663646.htm?chan=magazine+channel_top+stories&chan=investing_investing+index+page_top+stories

"If you are a child of the bull market, it's time to grow up and become a chastened adult," writes William H. Gross, manager of PIMCO Total Return (PTTRX), the world's largest bond fund, in his September dispatch to investors. "It's time to recognize that things have changed and that they will continue to change for the next—yes, the next 10 years and maybe even the next 20."

mab said...

Stag,

If we can get the interest rates down to 0% and keep them there, then we should be able to borrow an infinite amount of money with absolutely no consequences.

No consequences what-so-ever. In fact, the lower the interest rate, the easier it is to unlock value! Just so you know, according to my financial decoder, unlocking value = adding debt.

I'm not sure what our eCONomy's mathematical debt limit is, but we're definitely getting close - regardless of interest rates.

Borrowing today at a low rate is not quite the same as when Greenscam dropped rates to 1%. Back then, the collateral was generally rising in price. Today, most collateral is falling in price. A 6.25% jumbo mortgage on a McMansion that loses 2%/yr is an effective 8.25% mortgage. That's a heavy burden in a stagnating economy.

Let's be optimistic and say that 2 year treasury note yields are a proxy for wage gains. With falling collateral prices and stagnant wages, it's not exactly a great time to be carrying a heavy debt load.

Also, read the section by Rob Arnott in the following link. He was mentioned in the article you posted. Stocks don't always outperform bonds.

http://www.indexuniverse.com/docs/magazine/2/2009_149.pdf

According to Arnott, long dated treasuries have outperformed stocks for over 40 years! Stocks have had a negative risk premium! Who knew?

How could stocks possibly underperform boring treasuries with all the media hype and so many Wall St. "professionals" pushing stocks?

Btw, Vanguard data supports Arnotts findings, but it doesn't go back quite as far.

The greatest story never told.

Stagflationary Mark said...

mab,

Over the long haul, seeking safety can be better than embracing risk?

Other than mothers, who could of known?